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''' | '''Block 2b''' in [[Alf Bråthen]]s [[BrVQ|Oak chronology from Western Sweden]]<ref>Alf Bråthen: ''Dendrokronologisk serie från västra Sverige 831-1975''. Rapport RAÄ 1982:1. ISBN 91-7192-511-2</ref> based on "historical" samples is said to cover the period 1197-1490. Indeed it is very problematic and 1983, Bråthen writes about this "block 2b" that it is now "superseded".<ref name="Bråthen1983">Alf Bråthen: ''The tree-ring chronology of Western Sweden 753-1720'' in: Dendrokronologiska Sällskapet: Meddelanden 6, 1983.</ref> The severe problems will easily be revealed by a [[block analysis]]<ref>The following analysis was done by T. Axelson before he know about Bråthens disclaimer from 1983</ref>. It was dated by Bråthen to 1490, and the youngest part is obviously correctly dated, but the older part does not correlate at all to other references at its given position! Instead that older part correlates as if the whole 2b-block should be dated to 1197, i.e the samples in the oldest part are erroneously dated 293 years too late! Samples of two very different ages have been mixed together. | ||
When carefully reading the documentation and constructing the samples positions and lengths these mistakes were revealed: Six samples from Götene and Kungslena churches which are from early 12'th century have been mixed into the chronology at a position 293 years too late. As there is only an average series available, only the early and late ends of Block 2b are "clean". | |||
On page 32-33 is a list of 12 samples which are said to be the samples in the average series "Block2b", but that list is not correct, which is obvious when compared to the number of samples said to be behind each value in the average chronology. The correct list could almost be reconstructed from the complementary list at pp. 90-94 and the years when the number of samples per year are altered in the chronology. It is than revealed that one sample from Hedared is forgotten in the first list and one sample from Götene church is confused i the table. | |||
On page 32-33 is a list of 12 samples which are said to be the samples in the average series "Block2b", but that list is not correct | |||
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In a book 1995 Bråthen is obviously aware of the correct datings for Götene church (1125) and Kungslena church (1118-1122).<ref>Alf Bråthen: ''Dated wood from Gotland and the diocese of Skara'', Forlaget Hikuin, 1995, p. 92, ISBN 87-87270-75-7 </ref> | In a book 1995 Bråthen is obviously aware of the correct datings for Götene church (1125) and Kungslena church (1118-1122).<ref>Alf Bråthen: ''Dated wood from Gotland and the diocese of Skara'', Forlaget Hikuin, 1995, p. 92, ISBN 87-87270-75-7 </ref> | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:05, 16 May 2010
Block 2b in Alf Bråthens Oak chronology from Western Sweden[1] based on "historical" samples is said to cover the period 1197-1490. Indeed it is very problematic and 1983, Bråthen writes about this "block 2b" that it is now "superseded".[2] The severe problems will easily be revealed by a block analysis[3]. It was dated by Bråthen to 1490, and the youngest part is obviously correctly dated, but the older part does not correlate at all to other references at its given position! Instead that older part correlates as if the whole 2b-block should be dated to 1197, i.e the samples in the oldest part are erroneously dated 293 years too late! Samples of two very different ages have been mixed together.
When carefully reading the documentation and constructing the samples positions and lengths these mistakes were revealed: Six samples from Götene and Kungslena churches which are from early 12'th century have been mixed into the chronology at a position 293 years too late. As there is only an average series available, only the early and late ends of Block 2b are "clean".
On page 32-33 is a list of 12 samples which are said to be the samples in the average series "Block2b", but that list is not correct, which is obvious when compared to the number of samples said to be behind each value in the average chronology. The correct list could almost be reconstructed from the complementary list at pp. 90-94 and the years when the number of samples per year are altered in the chronology. It is than revealed that one sample from Hedared is forgotten in the first list and one sample from Götene church is confused i the table.
| Id | Bråthen's id | Description | use | Correct dating (used part) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ba1 | Bälinge 1 | 1436-1314 | yes | yes |
| Ba2 | Bälinge S. remstycke | 1482-1313 | yes | yes |
| Ba3 | Bälinge N. remstycke | 1506-1280 | 1490-1280 | yes |
| Go1 | Götene 1 | 1418-1213 | yes | 1125-920[4] |
| Go3 | Götene 3 | 1396-1239 | yes | 1103-946 |
| Go4 | Götene 4 | 1301-1157 | 1301-1197 | 1008-864 (-904) |
| Go5 | Götene 5 | 1383-1198[5] | yes | 1090-905 |
| He1 | Hedared 1 | 1487-1338 | yes | yes |
| He3 | Hedared 3[6] | 1426-1268 | 1426-1302[7] | yes |
| He4 | Hedared 4 | 1455-1327 | yes | yes |
| He5 | Hedared 5 | 1488-1346 | yes | yes |
| Ku1 | Kungslena 1 | 1401-1268 | yes | 1108-975[8] |
| Ku2 | Kungslena 2 | 1393-1227 | yes | 1100-934 |
In a book 1995 Bråthen is obviously aware of the correct datings for Götene church (1125) and Kungslena church (1118-1122).[9]
Notes
- ↑ Alf Bråthen: Dendrokronologisk serie från västra Sverige 831-1975. Rapport RAÄ 1982:1. ISBN 91-7192-511-2
- ↑ Alf Bråthen: The tree-ring chronology of Western Sweden 753-1720 in: Dendrokronologiska Sällskapet: Meddelanden 6, 1983.
- ↑ The following analysis was done by T. Axelson before he know about Bråthens disclaimer from 1983
- ↑ At p.102 Bråthen remarks that there are Earlywood only for the year 1418. According to the missdating this is to be interpreted as summer (june) 1125! He also remarks that Prof. Erik Lundberg, in a paper 1968, dated the church to 12' century. Lundberg was right! (The correct dating (1125) is noted in Bebyggelseregistret)
- ↑ See p.91 (erroneously 1488-1346 in main table)
- ↑ Not in list, but according to p.91, and as the youngest year corresponds with an altering of the annual number of samples.
- ↑ It may also possibly continue backwards in all its length. There are several possibilities which sample is the truncated one: It may be He3 or Go4 (young end) or Ku1 (old end).
- ↑ The logs from Kungslena church are cut after 1108 and not after 1401.
- ↑ Alf Bråthen: Dated wood from Gotland and the diocese of Skara, Forlaget Hikuin, 1995, p. 92, ISBN 87-87270-75-7