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The top of instruments in the [[violin]] family are usually made of ''[[Picea abies]]'' wood and the wood structure is visible. It is therefore possible to measure the rings and match them towards available spruce (and fir) references. Useful references from central European mountains are listed below. But often the best matches are found towards other instruments, but unfortunately only quite a few ring series from instruments are published yet. Those we are aware of are listed below. | |||
==References potentially useful for dating violins== | ==References potentially useful for dating violins== | ||
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===The Alps=== | ===The Alps=== | ||
*{{itrdb|fran7|europe}}, 1659-1975, Mt. Ventoux, 1775 m, {{coord|44|10|N|5|15|E|display=inline|region:FR_type:country}}, [[ABAL]], [[F. Serre-Bachet]] | |||
*{{itrdb|fran039|europe}}, 1732-1999, Mont Risoux, 1100 m, {{coord|46|38|N|6|05|E|display=inline|region:FR_type:country}}, [[D. McCormick]], [[J. Topham]], [[B. Michaud]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit204|europe}}, 1800-1990, Le Crêt rond, 970m, {{coord|46|53|N|6|34|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, [[O.U. Bräker]], [[A. Zingg]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit203|europe}}, 1791-1998, Alptal AT, 1156 m, {{coord|47|03|N|8|43|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, [[P. Cherubini]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit189|europe}}, (1773)1801-2007, Glarus GL, 1500m, {{coord|47|02|N|9|4|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, [[Christof Bigler]], [[Elisabeth Rötheli]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit193|europe}}, (1715)1742-2008, Vals GR Riefawald, 1900m, {{coord|46|37|N|9|12|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Christof Bigler, [[Kathrin Kühne]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit177|europe|w}}<ref>The [[tucson format]] of this file is special</ref>, 987-1976, Lauenen + div. Stao CH, 1250 m, {{coord|46|25|N|7|19|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, [[Fritz Schweingruber]] | *{{itrdb|swit177|europe|w}}<ref>The [[tucson format]] of this file is special</ref>, 987-1976, Lauenen + div. Stao CH, 1250 m, {{coord|46|25|N|7|19|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, [[Fritz Schweingruber]] | ||
*{{itrdb|swit169|europe|w}}, 1562-1986, Simmental, Iffigenalp, 1900 m, {{coord|46|24|N|7|26|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|swit169|europe|w}}, 1562-1986, Simmental, Iffigenalp, 1900 m, {{coord|46|24|N|7|26|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|swit215|europe}}, 1739-1998, Beatenberg, 1515 m, {{coord|48|00|N|7|46|E|display=inline|region:FR_type:country}}<ref>The latitude seems not to be correct. Beatenberg would rather be something like {{coord|46|41|N|7|46|E|display=inline|region:FR_type:country}}</ref>, [[P. Cherubini]] | |||
*{{itrdb|swit184|europe}}, 1773-1999, Muotathal SZ Bödmerenwald, 1550 m, {{coord|46|59|N|8|51|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Christof Bigler | *{{itrdb|swit184|europe}}, 1773-1999, Muotathal SZ Bödmerenwald, 1550 m, {{coord|46|59|N|8|51|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Christof Bigler | ||
*{{itrdb|swit173|europe|w}}, 1537-1995, Obersaxen, Meierhof, GR, 1520 m, {{coord|46|44|N|9|5|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, | *{{itrdb|swit173|europe|w}}, 1537-1995, Obersaxen, Meierhof, GR, 1520 m, {{coord|46|44|N|9|5|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|swit181|europe}}, 1774-1999, Davos GR Dischma-Flüela, 1800 m, {{coord|46|47|N|09|53|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, | *{{itrdb|swit181|europe}}, 1774-1999, Davos GR Dischma-Flüela, 1800 m, {{coord|46|47|N|09|53|E|display=inline|region:CH_type:country}}, Christof Bigler | ||
*{{itrdb|aust003|europe}}, 1301-1974, Obergurgl, {{coord|46|52|N|11|01|E|display=inline|region:AT_type:country}}, [[Giertz]] | *{{itrdb|aust003|europe}}, 1301-1974, Obergurgl, {{coord|46|52|N|11|01|E|display=inline|region:AT_type:country}}, [[Giertz]] | ||
*{{itrdb|aust007|europe}}, 1774-1975, Stubaital, Milderaun Alm, 1850 m, {{coord|47|08|N|11|17|E|display=inline|region:AT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|aust007|europe}}, 1774-1975, Stubaital, Milderaun Alm, 1850 m, {{coord|47|08|N|11|17|E|display=inline|region:AT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|germ12|europe}}, 1599-1961, Kreuth, [[ABAL]], {{coord|47|38|N|11|45|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|germ12|europe}}, 1599-1961, Kreuth, [[ABAL]], {{coord|47|38|N|11|45|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, [[Becker]] | ||
*{{itrdb|germ11|europe}}, 1700-1961, Kreuth, {{coord|47|23|N|11|45|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|germ11|europe}}, 1700-1961, Kreuth, {{coord|47|23|N|11|45|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|ital007|europe}}, 1686-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Süd), 1820 m, {{coord|46|32|N|12|04|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|ital007|europe}}, 1686-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Süd), 1820 m, {{coord|46|32|N|12|04|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|ital006|europe}}, 1745-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Nord), 1820 m, {{coord|46|32|N|12|04|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|ital006|europe}}, 1745-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Nord), 1820 m, {{coord|46|32|N|12|04|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|ital025|europe}}, 1725-1990, Fodara Vedla Alm, 1970 m, {{coord|46|38|N|12|06|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, [[Huesken W.]] | *{{itrdb|ital025|europe}}, 1725-1990, Fodara Vedla Alm, 1970 m, {{coord|46|38|N|12|06|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, [[Huesken W.]] | ||
===Bayerischer Wald=== | ===Bayerischer Wald=== | ||
*{{itrdb|germ036|europe}}, 1837-1996, Sinzing, 425 m, {{coord|48|58|N|11|59|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Rob Wilson | *{{itrdb|germ036|europe}}, 1837-1996, Sinzing, 425 m, {{coord|48|58|N|11|59|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, [[Rob Wilson]] | ||
*{{itrdb|germ4|europe}}, 1572-1951 (truncated), Bayerischer Wald, [[ABAL]], {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|germ4|europe}}, 1572-1951 (truncated), Bayerischer Wald, [[ABAL]], {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|germ5|europe}}, 1541-1963, Bayerischer Wald, [[ABAL]], {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|germ5|europe}}, 1541-1963, Bayerischer Wald, [[ABAL]], {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|germ14|europe}}, 1642-1953, Bayerischer Wald, {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|germ14|europe}}, 1642-1953, Bayerischer Wald, {{coord|48|45|N|13|00|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|germ040|europe}}, 1734-1995, Falkenstein, 1325m, {{coord|49|06|N|13|20|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, | *{{itrdb|germ040|europe}}, 1734-1995, Falkenstein, 1325m, {{coord|49|06|N|13|20|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Rob Wilson | ||
*{{itrdb|germ033|europe}}, 1828-1997, Arber, 1420 m, {{coord|49|07|N|13|08|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Rob Wilson | *{{itrdb|germ033|europe}}, 1828-1997, Arber, 1420 m, {{coord|49|07|N|13|08|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}, Rob Wilson | ||
*ITRDB:germ107-147 (except germ123), historical [[PCAB]]-timber found i Regensburg etc, in Bavaria, Rob Wilson, 1456-1929, {{coord|49|0|N|12|0|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:country}}. Compiled versions [http://taxelson.se/dendro/BayernPCABHistITRDB.zip available here]. (Note: only very few violins seems to be datable towards this collection.) | |||
===Rest of Germany=== | ===Rest of Germany=== | ||
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===Sudety Mountains=== | ===Sudety Mountains=== | ||
*{{itrdb|czec001|europe}}, 1798-1991, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, northern slope, 1000 m, {{coord|50|45|N|15|33|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, [[C. Sander]], [[D. Eckstein]], [[J. Dobry]], [[J. Kyncl]] | *{{itrdb|czec001|europe}}, 1798-1991, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, northern slope, 1000 m, {{coord|50|45|N|15|33|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, [[C. Sander]], [[D. Eckstein]], [[J. Dobry]], [[J. Kyncl]] | ||
*{{itrdb|czec002|europe}}, 1802-1990, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, southern slope, 1150 m, {{coord|50|45|N|15|33|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, | *{{itrdb|czec002|europe}}, 1802-1990, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, southern slope, 1150 m, {{coord|50|45|N|15|33|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, C. Sander, D. Eckstein, J. Dobry, J. Kyncl | ||
===Carpathian Mountains=== | ===Carpathian Mountains=== | ||
*{{itrdb|czec3|europe}} (revised), 1771-1943, Beskid Mountains, {{coord|49|50|N|18|20|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, Becker | *{{itrdb|czec3|europe}} (revised), 1771-1943, Beskid Mountains, {{coord|49|50|N|18|20|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|czec|europe}}, 1701-1943, Beskid Mountains, [[ABAL]], {{coord|49|50|N|18|20|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, | *{{itrdb|czec|europe}}, 1701-1943, Beskid Mountains, [[ABAL]], {{coord|49|50|N|18|20|E|display=inline|region:CZ_type:country}}, Becker | ||
*{{itrdb|pola022|europe}}, 1687-2004, BabiaGora, Poland, 1300 m, {{coord|49|35|N|19|03|E|display=inline|region:PL_type:country}}, U. Büntgen, R. Kaszka, J. Esper, D. Frank, A. Verstege | |||
*{{itrdb|pola019|europe}}, 1747-1978, Swistowko, Wyznig, 1500 m, {{coord|49|15|N|19|55|E|display=inline|region:PL_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|pola019|europe}}, 1747-1978, Swistowko, Wyznig, 1500 m, {{coord|49|15|N|19|55|E|display=inline|region:PL_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|pola020|europe}}, 1788-1964, Gasienicowy, 1500 m, {{coord|49|15|N|19|55|E|display=inline|region:PL_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|pola020|europe}}, 1788-1964, Gasienicowy, 1500 m, {{coord|49|15|N|19|55|E|display=inline|region:PL_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|roma002|europe}}(revised), 1820-1981, Novaci, 1650 m, {{coord|45|18|N|23|40|E|display=inline|region:RO_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | *{{itrdb|roma002|europe}}(revised), 1820-1981, Novaci, 1650 m, {{coord|45|18|N|23|40|E|display=inline|region:RO_type:country}}, Fritz Schweingruber | ||
*{{itrdb|roma005|europe}}, 1884-1981, Agarasului, Romania, 1600m, {{coord|45|33|N|24|02|E|display=inline|region:RO_type:country}}, R. Kaszka U. Büntgen | |||
===Balkan=== | ===Balkan=== | ||
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===Appenine Mountains=== | ===Appenine Mountains=== | ||
*{{itrdb|ital022|europe}}, 1682-1973, Pratomagno-Bibbiena, Appenine Mountains, [[ABSP]], 1050 m, {{coord|43|40|N|11|46|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, [[Bernd Becker]] | *{{itrdb|ital022|europe}}, 1682-1973, Pratomagno-Bibbiena, Appenine Mountains, [[ABSP]], 1050 m, {{coord|43|40|N|11|46|E|display=inline|region:IT_type:country}}, [[Bernd Becker]] | ||
===Scandinavian PCAB-references=== | |||
*See [[List of references useful in southern and central Scandinavia#Picea abies references useful in Scandinavia|The PCAB-section of the general Scandinavian list]] | |||
==Measurements from single instruments== | ==Measurements from single instruments== | ||
===Alpine region=== | ===Alpine region=== | ||
*'''[[GuA23]]''', Cello, probably French 18'th cent, 1557-1717, Wood from the Alps, [[T. Axelson]]. (Measurements from a very low resolution image.) | *'''[[GuA23]]''', Cello, probably French 18'th cent, 1557-1717, Wood from the Alps, [[T. Axelson]]. (Measurements from a very low resolution image.) | ||
*'''[http://www.treeringsociety.org/TRBTRR/TRRvol61_2_77-86.pdf Karr-Koussevitsky double bass]''', 1445-1761, [[H.D.Grissino-Mayer]], [[G.G.Deweese]], [[D.A. Williams]], TREE-RING RESEARCH, Vol. 61(2), 2005, pp. 77–86 | *'''[http://www.treeringsociety.org/TRBTRR/TRRvol61_2_77-86.pdf Karr-Koussevitsky double bass]''', 1445-1761, [[H.D.Grissino-Mayer]], [[G.G.Deweese]], [[D.A. Williams]], TREE-RING RESEARCH, Vol. 61(2), 2005, pp. 77–86 | ||
* '''Kux/Castelbarco Viola''', {{itrdb|brit052|europe}}, 1559-1683, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, [[Paul R. Sheppard]], [[Malcolm K. Cleaveland]] | * '''Kux/Castelbarco Viola''', {{itrdb|brit052|europe}}, 1559-1683, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, [[Paul R. Sheppard]], [[Malcolm K. Cleaveland]] | ||
* '''Archinto Viola''', {{itrdb|brit051|europe}}, 1527-1685, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland | |||
* '''Messiah Violin''', {{itrdb|brit050|europe}}, 1587-1686, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland | * '''Messiah Violin''', {{itrdb|brit050|europe}}, 1587-1686, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland | ||
*'''MITT1''', ''Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 1'', {{itrdb|germ062|europe}} | *'''MITT1''', ''Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 1'', {{itrdb|germ062|europe}}, 1490-1803 {{coord|47|26|N|11|15|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:state}}, [[Peter Ratcliff]] | ||
*'''MITT2''', ''Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 2'', {{itrdb|germ063| | *'''MITT2''', ''Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 2'', {{itrdb|germ063|europe}}, 1605-1805, Peter Ratcliff | ||
*'''JJAIS''', ''Mittenwald Johannes Jais Violin'', {{itrdb|germ064|europe}}, 1630-1793, Peter Ratcliff | |||
*'''BAR''', ''Barnabetti French Violin'', {{itrdb|fran040|europe}}, 1803-1910, Peter Ratcliff | |||
* '''ENG_DB''', ''Chilton English Double Bass'', {{itrdb|swit194|europe}}, 1713-1835, (1500 m, 47 N, 9 E), Peter Ratcliff<ref>Syntax error: the end marks should be -9999 and not 999 in this [[Tucson-format|rwl-file]].</ref> | |||
===Central Europe=== | ===Central Europe=== | ||
*'''[[Eost01]]''', Violin by Erik Östberg, Svärdsjö, Sweden. Wood from Germany (best towards germ14, | *'''[[Eost01]]''', Violin by Erik Östberg, Svärdsjö, Sweden. Wood from Germany (best towards germ14, Bayerischer Wald), 1870-1961, [[B. Israels]] | ||
* '''[[cel9]]''', Cello, probably Hungary 20'th cent. 1813-1934, ( | * '''[[cel9]]''', Cello, probably Hungary 20'th cent. 1813-1934, (label states: Genua 1775), Bohemia area?, T. Axelson ([http://taxelson.se/dendro/obj/cel9.pdf dating report]) | ||
===="''Der [[Musikwinkel]]''" (Markneukirchen and around)==== | |||
{{coord|50|18|39|N|12|19|45|E|display=inline|region:DE_type:state}}. In the late 19'th and to the WW2 aproximately 80% of all violins were produced in this area. Especially as we do not have any regional chronologies from this are it is of great value if we can gather and publish measurements from many instruments from this area. So far only a few are available. | |||
* '''[[Ekeb10]]''', violin, likely from the Markneukirchen area, (pattern is disturbed with a growth decrease after 1877. 1775-1890 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), [[T. Axelson]] | |||
* '''[[Ekeb14]]''', violin, label: "Stjärnan, Osby" (Obviously a Swedish reseller), possibly [[Schönbach]], Böhmen<ref>Sören Ekebjörns, oral</ref>. Old imitation. The instrument is skillfully made. 1842-1905 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson | |||
* '''[[Fi010]]''', violin Label: "Nach Straduarius" and a signature. Measurements from a photo taken at Dan Andersson Museum, Ludvika (Late rings a bit uncertain according to a bit low resolution). 1841-1916 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson | |||
* '''[[SfFHM1]]''', pucket string instrument (Mandola/Guitar hybrid?) without labels, wood probably from Bayerischer Wald or around. (It is likely that also this instrument is from the "Musikwinkel" or around), 1814-1911 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson | |||
* '''[[ViJA1]]''', violin, measured from photo, unfortunately with a bit too low resolution), 1831-1895 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson | |||
===Scandinavia=== | ===Scandinavia=== | ||
*'''[[Marn01]], Violin used in Dalarna, Sweden. | *'''[[Marn01]]''', Violin used in Dalarna, Sweden. Rather local wood, no label, 1831-1924, B. Israels | ||
==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
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[[Category:Tree ring data]] | [[Category:Tree ring data| ]] |
Latest revision as of 20:11, 18 May 2011
The top of instruments in the violin family are usually made of Picea abies wood and the wood structure is visible. It is therefore possible to measure the rings and match them towards available spruce (and fir) references. Useful references from central European mountains are listed below. But often the best matches are found towards other instruments, but unfortunately only quite a few ring series from instruments are published yet. Those we are aware of are listed below.
References potentially useful for dating violins
Picea abies (PCAB) if not other stated. The timespan may be according to a truncated version in order to avoid ends with two small sample depth.
The Alps
- ITRDB: fran7.rwl info, 1659-1975, Mt. Ventoux, 1775 m, , ABAL, F. Serre-Bachet
- ITRDB: fran039.rwl info, 1732-1999, Mont Risoux, 1100 m, , D. McCormick, J. Topham, B. Michaud
- ITRDB: swit204.rwl info, 1800-1990, Le Crêt rond, 970m, , O.U. Bräker, A. Zingg
- ITRDB: swit203.rwl info, 1791-1998, Alptal AT, 1156 m, , P. Cherubini
- ITRDB: swit189.rwl info, (1773)1801-2007, Glarus GL, 1500m, , Christof Bigler, Elisabeth Rötheli
- ITRDB: swit193.rwl info, (1715)1742-2008, Vals GR Riefawald, 1900m, , Christof Bigler, Kathrin Kühne
- ITRDB: swit177.rwl info[1], 987-1976, Lauenen + div. Stao CH, 1250 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: swit169.rwl info, 1562-1986, Simmental, Iffigenalp, 1900 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: swit215.rwl info, 1739-1998, Beatenberg, 1515 m, [2], P. Cherubini
- ITRDB: swit184.rwl info, 1773-1999, Muotathal SZ Bödmerenwald, 1550 m, , Christof Bigler
- ITRDB: swit173.rwl info, 1537-1995, Obersaxen, Meierhof, GR, 1520 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: swit181.rwl info, 1774-1999, Davos GR Dischma-Flüela, 1800 m, , Christof Bigler
- ITRDB: aust003.rwl info, 1301-1974, Obergurgl, , Giertz
- ITRDB: aust007.rwl info, 1774-1975, Stubaital, Milderaun Alm, 1850 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: germ12.rwl info, 1599-1961, Kreuth, ABAL, , Becker
- ITRDB: germ11.rwl info, 1700-1961, Kreuth, , Becker
- ITRDB: ital007.rwl info, 1686-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Süd), 1820 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: ital006.rwl info, 1745-1975, Cortina dAmpezzo (Nord), 1820 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: ital025.rwl info, 1725-1990, Fodara Vedla Alm, 1970 m, , Huesken W.
Bayerischer Wald
- ITRDB: germ036.rwl info, 1837-1996, Sinzing, 425 m, , Rob Wilson
- ITRDB: germ4.rwl info, 1572-1951 (truncated), Bayerischer Wald, ABAL, , Becker
- ITRDB: germ5.rwl info, 1541-1963, Bayerischer Wald, ABAL, , Becker
- ITRDB: germ14.rwl info, 1642-1953, Bayerischer Wald, , Becker
- ITRDB: germ040.rwl info, 1734-1995, Falkenstein, 1325m, , Rob Wilson
- ITRDB: germ033.rwl info, 1828-1997, Arber, 1420 m, , Rob Wilson
- ITRDB:germ107-147 (except germ123), historical PCAB-timber found i Regensburg etc, in Bavaria, Rob Wilson, 1456-1929, . Compiled versions available here. (Note: only very few violins seems to be datable towards this collection.)
Rest of Germany
- ITRDB: germ020.rwl info, 1776-1977, Andreasberg Harz Schluft, 900 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
Sudety Mountains
- ITRDB: czec001.rwl info, 1798-1991, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, northern slope, 1000 m, , C. Sander, D. Eckstein, J. Dobry, J. Kyncl
- ITRDB: czec002.rwl info, 1802-1990, Krkonose mountains, Upper Labe valley, southern slope, 1150 m, , C. Sander, D. Eckstein, J. Dobry, J. Kyncl
Carpathian Mountains
- ITRDB: czec3.rwl info (revised), 1771-1943, Beskid Mountains, , Becker
- ITRDB: czec.rwl info, 1701-1943, Beskid Mountains, ABAL, , Becker
- ITRDB: pola022.rwl info, 1687-2004, BabiaGora, Poland, 1300 m, , U. Büntgen, R. Kaszka, J. Esper, D. Frank, A. Verstege
- ITRDB: pola019.rwl info, 1747-1978, Swistowko, Wyznig, 1500 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: pola020.rwl info, 1788-1964, Gasienicowy, 1500 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: roma002.rwl info(revised), 1820-1981, Novaci, 1650 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: roma005.rwl info, 1884-1981, Agarasului, Romania, 1600m, , R. Kaszka U. Büntgen
Balkan
- ITRDB: yugo001.rwl info, 1760-1981, Vrsic, Krajanska Gora, 1600 m, , Fritz Schweingruber
- ITRDB: slov001.rwl info, 1811-1992, BISTRA, ABAL, 550 m, , K. Cufar T. Levanic
Appenine Mountains
- ITRDB: ital022.rwl info, 1682-1973, Pratomagno-Bibbiena, Appenine Mountains, ABSP, 1050 m, , Bernd Becker
Measurements from single instruments
Alpine region
- GuA23, Cello, probably French 18'th cent, 1557-1717, Wood from the Alps, T. Axelson. (Measurements from a very low resolution image.)
- Karr-Koussevitsky double bass, 1445-1761, H.D.Grissino-Mayer, G.G.Deweese, D.A. Williams, TREE-RING RESEARCH, Vol. 61(2), 2005, pp. 77–86
- Kux/Castelbarco Viola, ITRDB: brit052.rwl info, 1559-1683, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland
- Archinto Viola, ITRDB: brit051.rwl info, 1527-1685, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland
- Messiah Violin, ITRDB: brit050.rwl info, 1587-1686, Henri D. Grissino-Mayer, Paul R. Sheppard, Malcolm K. Cleaveland
- MITT1, Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 1, ITRDB: germ062.rwl info, 1490-1803 , Peter Ratcliff
- MITT2, Mittenwald Neuner School Violin 2, ITRDB: germ063.rwl info, 1605-1805, Peter Ratcliff
- JJAIS, Mittenwald Johannes Jais Violin, ITRDB: germ064.rwl info, 1630-1793, Peter Ratcliff
- BAR, Barnabetti French Violin, ITRDB: fran040.rwl info, 1803-1910, Peter Ratcliff
- ENG_DB, Chilton English Double Bass, ITRDB: swit194.rwl info, 1713-1835, (1500 m, 47 N, 9 E), Peter Ratcliff[3]
Central Europe
- Eost01, Violin by Erik Östberg, Svärdsjö, Sweden. Wood from Germany (best towards germ14, Bayerischer Wald), 1870-1961, B. Israels
- cel9, Cello, probably Hungary 20'th cent. 1813-1934, (label states: Genua 1775), Bohemia area?, T. Axelson (dating report)
"Der Musikwinkel" (Markneukirchen and around)
. In the late 19'th and to the WW2 aproximately 80% of all violins were produced in this area. Especially as we do not have any regional chronologies from this are it is of great value if we can gather and publish measurements from many instruments from this area. So far only a few are available.
- Ekeb10, violin, likely from the Markneukirchen area, (pattern is disturbed with a growth decrease after 1877. 1775-1890 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson
- Ekeb14, violin, label: "Stjärnan, Osby" (Obviously a Swedish reseller), possibly Schönbach, Böhmen[4]. Old imitation. The instrument is skillfully made. 1842-1905 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson
- Fi010, violin Label: "Nach Straduarius" and a signature. Measurements from a photo taken at Dan Andersson Museum, Ludvika (Late rings a bit uncertain according to a bit low resolution). 1841-1916 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson
- SfFHM1, pucket string instrument (Mandola/Guitar hybrid?) without labels, wood probably from Bayerischer Wald or around. (It is likely that also this instrument is from the "Musikwinkel" or around), 1814-1911 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson
- ViJA1, violin, measured from photo, unfortunately with a bit too low resolution), 1831-1895 (mean of the two "butterflied" sides), T. Axelson
- Marn01, Violin used in Dalarna, Sweden. Rather local wood, no label, 1831-1924, B. Israels